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Damon Thompson of The Ramp Calls Homosexuals “Queer” in an Angry Growl

This website has explored the issue of homosexuality often.  The Bible seems to be clear on the matter and leaves little to no room for liberal wiggling.  That being said, at no point is the Christian given permission to degrade and call homosexuals hateful and cruel names.  How will that lead to repentance?

Please watch the short video below of Damon Thompson, a false prophet operating primarily out of The Ramp in Hamilton, AL.  Listen as he angrily and hatefully refers to homosexuals as “queer.”  Keep in mind as well, that those hooting and hollering in the background are kids, impressionable teens who are learning that it must be fine for people in a church to use degrading slang when referring to others sins.  This is wrong.  This is false.  This is godless.  This is, to use the Greek, moros.

This should come as no surprise from people who sit under the teaching of Lou Engle, who supported a movement in Africa to make homosexuality a crime punishable by death. These people are evil.

Just a question for Thompson though: Is the same demonic force that you believe drives homosexuals the same one that would cause people to try to cheat on their wife?

Texas.

 

[UPDATE]  After posting this discussion on facebook for others to explore and talk about, I thought this particular response was most telling of the “fruit” that comes out of places such as The Ramp.

Follow Up: Lakeland Comes to The Ramp

Thanks to one of the readers of As I Travel… it has been pointed out to me that The Ramp of Hamilton, AL has had connections to the false Lakeland Revival for quite some time.  According to this reliable source, The Ramp of Hamilton, AL not only supported Todd Bentley’s false revival, but sent members of their “worship dance crew” to Lakeland, FL to be a part of and in support of Bentley and his false revival.  Also, it is well documented that frequent Ramp leader Rick Pino was a large part of Lakeland hype.

It seems that at one time the website of The Ramp had a pretty active forum section.  I cannot seem to find it today.  Perhaps it was considered a liability to them.  Apparently, The Ramp endorsed and supported Todd Bentley’s false revival in Lakeland, FL on this forum.  At some point, people began to question the support of this revival.  Before taking down the post, my source reports that this is what was posted about Lakeland:

Well the moderator over at theramp.*** shut down the thread discussing Lakeland where I was trying to inform these dear misled youth about what is going on. They even erased all the content. The folks and children that attend the ramp are the ones clearly being told and groomed to be “Joel’s army.” By the way I am also aware that there was/is connection to Becky Johnson and the film “Jesus Camp” which was pure propoganda I thought at time. I did have a strong negative reaction at the time to a section where Becky was leading children in tounges. I talked to the kids at the ramp and let myself be convinced that maybe it was the editing and propoganda that I reacted to. However, there is connection with Beck Johnson and Patricia King. These kids concern me. I will continue to monitor the site. I sent some private messages asking them if email me if they wanted to discuss further. There were 3 main kids that entered the discussion. Please pray that at least one gets pushed to hear the truth.

This is the exact message. “The Ramp and Karen Wheaton Ministries prefer that these forums not to be used to criticize any current move of God, including the Florida Outpouring in Lakeland. We are thankful for the salvations and healings that have occurred through the ministry of Todd Bentley, a seeker and worshipper of God. Members of Chosen have attended services in Lakeland and were encouraged by the hunger of the people there to worship and seek God’s face. We suggest to anyone in disagreement with the Outpouring to find and focus on the good that has resulted from the services. Paul rejoiced whenever Christ was preached, whether it was by his son Timothy or by those with envy and strife (Phil. 1:15-18). We should trust that any correction needed will come through the Holy Spirit as the leaders of the revival are seekers of God and open to His voice. Thank you for honoring our request to not criticize the Outpouring on our forums. We bless you and encourage you to continue to pursue God with all of your might. “

This is the sort of discernment exhibited by the leadership of The Ramp.  Why would you ever send your children there knowing that they continue to associate with individuals associated with Bentley’s false Lakeland “Outpou

The NAR DNA (Post From a Commenter)

In response to our latest video, Story Time with Damon Thompson, …Genetic Code, one of the commenters on this website did some excellent research.  It appears that the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) has been talking about changing DNA for a couple of years now (I will refrain on commenting on how these guys and girls regurgitate what they hear each other saying all the time).  Some of their leaders, including Dutch Sheets (a proven false prophet based upon the Wilderness Outcry debacle) and Chuck Pierce (a supporter and voice behind the heretical Lakeland Revival) are seen in the work below promoting this teaching that can be found or backed nowhere in scripture.  Thanks to Joy for the comments,  I hope you enjoy reading them below:

It appears that many of these self-styled “apostles” are becoming fascinated with DNA. Here are some of the quotes from those involved in the New Apostolic Reformation (of which Thompson is associated) regarding a new DNA:

“We participated in a leadership meeting on Monday prior to the conference where Dutch released the vision of the Apostolic Alliance. It was a powerful three days of God imparting His DNA into this apostolic movement for national transformation.” April 2008 e-newsletter by Prayer Focus Ministries describing the Apostolic Alliance gathering in Colorado Springs, Colorado

“In an apostolic network the person in charge of maintaining the DNA of the network is the lead apostle, who consults with those he or she chooses, and no one else.” ["Goodbye, Theologians," C. Peter Wagner, September 06, 2006, "Guest Commentary," Ministry Today]

“God is trying to get us to a place of really understanding who we are. The church is having an identity crisis. When the people of God begin to realize that the purpose of Jesus on the earth was to birth a new breed of people who would carry the DNA of God within them and bring heaven to earth daily, we will begin to live with purpose. When the people of God begin to realize their identity as the very offspring of God and that as He is right now, so are we in this world, the church will begin to shake the nations with the power of God.” ["The New Breed - Part 2," Ryan Wyatt, Abiding Glory Ministries, Open Heaven]

“Insight is the God given ability for you to know your Identity, your Kingdom ID; your spiritual DNA; your uniqueness in the earth and in the Body of Christ. There is no one like you. You are predestined for Greatness.” [Chuck Pierce School of the Spirit, Faith Summit Church, Monday, March 24, 2008]

“The Living Word or Bread of life once again desires to be made flesh through a body of people joined with Him in a holy consummation. As we live not by natural bread alone, but by the living Word proceeding from the mouth of God, the bread of abundant life, even so the hidden truth of godliness will become part of our spiritual DNA.”
["Shepherd's Rod, Part 1: Blood and Fire," Paul Keith Davis and Bob Jones: Oct 11, 2004]

“I have called the best of every blood line in earth unto this generation…I have elected to bring them forth in this generation… the Elect Generation… even the bloodline of Paul… of David… of Peter, James and John… They will even be superior to them in heart, stature and love for me’…Your children will possess the spirit without measure…They will move into things of the supernatural that no one has ever moved in before… coming into the Divine Nature of Jesus Christ… a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-Man! This generation…is going to see the beginning of this World-wide New Order.” [Vineyard Prophecy Conference, 1989]

Did you catch Dutch (Sheets, that is) in that first quote? This is the man with whom Thompson and Wheaton are deeply involved and who has been allowed to “teach” these youth who attend The Ramp.

To find out more about the New Apostolic Reformation and its agenda, check these out. These links are simply articles/transcripts of lead “apostle” C. Peter Wagner’s own words.
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arise.html
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/5/28/19033/8502

Thanks to Joy for the excellent research!!!!

There’s a Rip in Your Sheep’s Clothing

Matt. 7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

As reported in previous blog posts, the Wilderness Outcry, the idea of self-proclaimed prophet and apostle Dutch Sheets was canceled over this past weekend.  Just as a reminder, others who were to be involved in this event and coordination of such were Karen Wheaton, Lou Engle, Rick Pino, & Damon Thompson.  This event was touted on all their websites and promised to their followers to be the divine want and revelation of God.  As can be seen in the screen capture from the events Facebook Page, the promise is: “God is indeed coming to Poplar Bluff this summer to fulfill Isaiah 44:3-5…”  

Yet Sheets in his letter to his public statement claims that he must have just misunderstood God.  He blows their false claim off as failing to see the fine line between true faith and presumption.  The saddest part is, as some of those who comment on this blog prove, that people continue to put faith, no their very salvation, in this man’s teaching.  I am dumbfounded by this.  Since when does a presumption turn into a statement that says “GOD IS INDEED COMING…”  Tell me if I slipped into another dimension of understanding but does “indeed” not mean “in fact” or “for certain?”  How does that turn into “oops, we were only presuming.”  How can these people not feel the hooks in their mouths?

In another proof of Sheets lying, look at this page from the Wilderness Outcry event (the access to this site is coming and going at this time):  Sheets here says that “…the Holy Spirit has sovereignly orchestrated this gathering with dreams, God-encounters and supernatural events has been amazing.”  Excuse me, but again, in his bowing out of this event, does he not say the exact opposite?  Which is it Dutch?  Perhaps the spirit you are following is not the Holy Spirit and your dreams and supernatural events are, as people have now been saying for years regarding your type, of something dark and evil.

As if you should need more confirmation of the false prophecy of Sheets and his like, the image below is also from the Wilderness Outcry Facebook Page and is Sheet’s telling of the Wilderness Outcry fable story.  In the last sentence, Sheets writes “I assure you this is His idea – and He will come!”  Take note that they have already removed this story from the Wilderness Outcry website and I am sure it won’t be long before this other proof of their lies will be removed.  This is the statement that I have the most problem with.  Sheets has made God to look like a liar.  That is why we true Christians who believe in the inerrant word of God must make clear to the world that these people do not share the same faith that we do.  If you have not yet come to that realization, the time is now.  They believe in a God who makes mistakes, not the God in the Bible.  Why do people continue to cling to these men and women and to you faithful Christians, how long will you continue to allow them to make the Christ you believe in look like a weak and mistake prone human?  Look at the words Sheets uses.  “I ASSURE YOU THIS IS HIS IDEA,” HE WILL COME,” these are definitive statements, not presumptions.  If it was God’s idea, wouldn’t He have fulfilled it?  Sheets and these other false teachers want you to believe that God delivers special messages to them but then they tell you He may be mistaken some times.  You can keep that god.

There is of course some who believe that Sheets’ statement for leaving was not even what he claimed it to be.  He reported that it was a lack of interest, but in an article in the Southeast Missourian, they claim it had some to do with the decision to scale the event back a little.  As many who follow these type of teachers, this is not an uncommon practice – less people = less money, and even though God assures Sheets He would be there (as Sheets told his followers), Sheets decided he had better things to do.  Let me never run from God’s assurances.  The landowner of this place is then left holding the bag after, as it has been reported, he has invested hundred of thousands of dollars preparing his land for this event.  Supposedly he will attempt to hold a much smaller event but just without the help of Sheets now.  I am almost certain (that is an actual presumption) that Engle, Thompson, & Wheaton will also bow out.  You never know though, there is money to be made there and these people never run from that opportunity.

As Christians (or Greys as Lou Engle calls us, research dominion blue and grey to learn what that means), we need to pray for these people and be quick to point them to the cross for repentance.  While to those loyal to the people and their doctrines of demons this post may appear to relish in their failure, that is not the intention behind it at all.  The true intention is to expose not only false teaching to those who follow these people, but to hopefully show the sins to these people themselves.  This kind of apostasy must come to an end before the generation they are targeting comes to a sure and certain destruction.

Just for good measure, we know that the people of the Ramp like to show up on stations such as TBN but then later condemn the teaching of those people to lessen their connection to them.  If Sheets continues going as he is, these same people will probably try to distance themselves from him.  When that happens, refer back to the image below and see Sheets, Engle, Damon Thompson, and Karen Wheaton all pictured together on the Wilderness Outcry property.  Those Sheets was the voice of this group on this venture, they all stood to profit from Sheets’ now proven heretical and false prophecy that God was indeed coming to where they stand in the picture.  Remember 1 Corinthians 5:11