2010 Prophetic Scoreboard, Damon Thompson Edition

It would appear that false prophet Damon Thompson has once again provided us proof that he is not what he claims to be. In the video below, you will hear Thompson giving his “word from the Lord” he “received” early in 2010.

The first of the video, you hear Thompson pontificating about some sort of numerology, a Neo-Pentecostal favorite past time. As the video doesn’t necessarily give the context of what Thompson is discussing, it’s difficult to understand what he is talking about but it probably is something he dreamed up that will captivate young, impressionable, spiritually immature youth.

What is easy to understand is that about half way through, Thompson begins bloviating his prophecy about the different things that will be healed in 2010. The list is long and includes such ailments as blindness, deafness, cancer, and cerebral palsy.

Now, if Thompson was receiving special revelation from God, all of these would have come true as God does not set his prophets up to fail. Myself and several others keep count of the “healings” performed by Damon Thompson and those close to his “ministry”/vocation. At last count, for the year 2010, the total number of fulfilled prophecies of Damon Thompson in the year 2010 equals ZERO. Zero. zero.

But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. (Deut.18:20-22)

“If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, `Let us go after other gods’–which you have not known–`and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for Yahweh your God is testing you to know whether you love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul” (Deut. 13:1-3).

All of this while week after week a young man I know well with down syndrome is seen bouncing around week after week after week at The Ramp where Thompson primarily teaches deceives. How sad that some who are there would sit by and do nothing to stop this cruelty to that young man. Where is the mercy on your part? Fruit of the spirit indeed…

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Tags: 2010, Damon Thompson, false prophets, healing, Neo-Pentecostal

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22 Comments to “2010 Prophetic Scoreboard, Damon Thompson Edition”

By Andrew, March 2, 2011 @ 9:24 am

I’ve been to the ramp less than 10 times and I have a few questions:

Did you allow God to use you to heal someone this past year?

Do you personally believe in healing?

Have you ever spoken something in faith and it didn’t come to pass?

I have, but I don’t think that makes me a false prophet.

What is cruel about the young man with down-syndrome being there?

I’ve seen him there and he prays and seeks God with his whole heart every service.

Is there a better place for him?

And how does Deut 13:1-3 even apply if Damon is pointing people toward Yahweh, Christ, the great I AM?

Just wondering.
By dvdbrumley, March 2, 2011 @ 3:56 pm

Andrew, allow me to answer your questions in order.

1. Did I allow God to use me to heal someone this past year?
– Andrew, I am powerless to allow God to do anything. I am a slave to Christ and my prayer is that he will grant me opportunity as he sees fit to teach others the gospel of His Son Jesus Christ, the only healing that man needs.

2. Do I personally believe in healing?
– I believe that scripture teaches that God is capable of doing what he well pleases to do. He is sovereign. Do I believe that scripture teaches that the apostolic miracles shown in the New Testament would continue? No, the apostles ended granted said power died when John perished. This was not a gift passed on as some would have you believe. So, no, I do not believe in healing in the Nicolatian sense that the charismatic movement proclaims and lords over their followers.

3. Have I ever spoken something in faith and it didn’t come to pass?
– I am not sure what this question means but I am assuming that your question involves the impartation aspect of charismatic beliefs. The simple answer is no. I have not spoken something in faith and it either come to pass or not come to pass. Not yet anyway. I only speak what the Bible says about the future. The story has already been written Andrew, and Christians are commissioned to carry the gospel of Jesus Christ (Matt. 28:18-20), the only sure and certain knowledge in the world today concerning the current and future state of humanity. That is what I place my faith in and what the Holy Spirit guides me to. THink about what you are assuming in your “word faith” belief. If something happens just because you believe it, then you don’t need God. That is not the faith in God that Christ taught in Mark 11:22-25. Christ had previously set the matters in order for the tree to withered in order to confirm the faith that the disciples had in Him. You may want to consider those verses in your own personal study as you look for the answer to why what you “spoke in faith” did not come to pass. Perhaps you aren’t speaking or praying to the right God…

As for your other questions, I think those may be best for you to answer yourself. It may be helpful for you. I will answer your question of “is there a better place for him?” My answer is simple. Look at the leadership of that church. Does it fit within the defining terms of a New Testament church? Is there a plurality of elders there as prescribed in Titus? Are the elders qualified as laid out in scripture? If your answer is yes, please let us know. If you answer is no, then be assured that the church, due to just this one refusal to submit to God’s authority, is in direct rebellion to the Lord Jesus Christ and His gospel.

I hope to continue this conversation and I look forward to your reply.

God Bless
By Andrew, March 10, 2011 @ 3:03 pm

1. God has chosen to use man to perform His will on earth. Moses, Joseph, David, Solomon, John, Mary, Jesus, Peter, Paul etc.

If God wants to heal someone, how is it done in the Bible?
Through people. So it is biblical to think that you can allow God to heal someone through your prayers and faith.

Imagine if the disciples simply believed that they didn’t have what it took to heal someone? Their lack of faith in the Holy Spirit inside of them would have hindered many of the wonderful healings we see in the book of Acts. God chose man to administer healing.

Physical healings still happen. I know many personal accounts. Our God is a great God.
My friend laid his hands on a woman in Egypt last month and God fully restored her sight. So cool.

2. What biblical basis do you have for power ceasing after John’s death?

3. Mark 11:24 – “Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.”

You might believe that this was a one time thing or maybe Jesus was talking only to the disciples, but I believe it’s for me and for you.

Mark 11:22-23 “Have faith in God. Whoever says to this mountain….” I believe that you and I are included in the “Whoever”.

Jesus tells us that our prayers are very powerful. I’m currently praying for both of my ears to be healed of tinnitus. Every now and then I say to myself and others, “My ears are going to be healed.” So far, one might label me a false prophet or an idiot. I’m neither. I’m a believer who has faith in a powerful God who can do anything according to His will.

Hebrews 11:1

4. I ask again, what is the travesty of this down-syndrome kid being at church services with people that love, value, and appreciate him? He obviously feels apart of something bigger than himself. I’d wish that for any disabled kid in this world. I wish other churches treated them the way they do at the Ramp.

I’m not trying to punch holes or stir anything up. I am genuinely trying to understand where you are coming from with your anti-RAMP blogs.
By dvdbrumley, March 14, 2011 @ 8:57 am

Andrew, I appreciate your response. We obviously differ on Biblical understanding in several areas. I do realize that you have asked me some questions in response and I will gladly answer those in time. However, I believe that toward the end of my last response to you, I posed some questions for you. In particular, some about the leadership of the church. You seemed to ignore those questions. In order to further this conversation, I believe it would be proper and polite for you to answer those questions first. I believe that in answering them, you may find the answers to some of your other questions. So that you don’t have to go looking, I will place the questions I asked you below:

“I will answer your question of “is there a better place for him?” My answer is simple. Look at the leadership of that church. Does it fit within the defining terms of a New Testament church? Is there a plurality of elders there as prescribed in Titus? Are the elders qualified as laid out in scripture? If your answer is yes, please let us know. If you answer is no, then be assured that the church, due to just this one refusal to submit to God’s authority, is in direct rebellion to the Lord Jesus Christ and His gospel.”
By hhs12, March 21, 2011 @ 7:29 am

So are you saying that this young man with Down Syndrome should not be at the ramp because Damon deceives?
By Andrew, March 21, 2011 @ 3:09 pm

I know that there is a board that guides the Ramp through its decisions. I believe there are elders that are involved in the church at Ramp. The older people aren’t as present at the conferences, but more so at the Sunday morning services.

At our church our elders don’t attend our youth services on a regular basis either but they are heavily influential in the church.

So you are upset because you haven’t seen any elders at their church. Try going on a Sunday morning. Perhaps you have. I never have myself. I know families are involved in the church. Not just teenagers.

But I’d still consider all of this irrelevant because I believe that Damon and Karen are both worthy of being considered elders.

They are both married to one husband or wife, they have children that follow Christ, and they are both people of integrity. These are the guidelines found in Titus.

How are these two believers not elders?
By dvdbrumley, March 28, 2011 @ 1:59 pm

And on what authority do you “believe that Damon and Karen are both worthy of being considered elders.” This is important and shows that you truly are misguided and uninformed on this matter Andrew. Get in your Bible and start asking questions.
By Andrew, March 29, 2011 @ 1:57 pm

As far as I can see they meet all the requirements found in Titus.

Enlighten me.
By Andrew, March 29, 2011 @ 2:07 pm

Biblical Qualifications for an elder:
Must be above reproach (Elders – Titus 1:6; Bishop – 1 Tim. 3:2)
Husband of one wife (Elders – Titus 1:6; Bishop – 1 Tim. 3:2).
Household must be in order with children who believe (Titus 1:6 ;1 Tim. 3:4).
Not a new convert (1 Tim. 3:6).
Self controlled and temperate (Titus 1:7; 1 Tim. 3:2).
Honorable, hospitable, seeking good (Titus 1:7).
Have a good reputation (1 Tim. 3:7).
Not addicted to wine (1 Tim. 3:3).
Not greedy (1 Tim. 3:3).
Able to exhort (teach) sound doctrine (Titus 1:9; 1 Tim. 3:2).
Able to refute false teaching (Titus 1:9).
They must be ready to earn their own living if necessary (Acts 20:17,33-35).

One could say that Karen would be ineligible since she is a woman. So, moving along to Damon.
How does Damon Thompson specifically not measure up according to the Bible’s qualifications of an elder?
By dvdbrumley, March 30, 2011 @ 8:29 am

I believe your statement about Wheaton is correct regarding her gender. I don’t like it either, but that is what the scripture says so there is no wiggle room there. It is very disturbing to see you simply blow that off as you did. I believe that this is example enough that they would be in rebellion against scripture and the gospel itself. Again, you have proven so yourself Biblically Thompson, as a self-appointed prophet, standing by and even submitting to this authority would be enough to disqualify him, but there are other matters as well.
The question is what will you now do with this information and knowledge that you have gleaned from your Biblical study. Will you ignore it and do what is pleasing to your heart or will you place scripture as the authority in your life and act accordingly? Good luck Andrew.
By Andrew, March 30, 2011 @ 11:47 am

In Romans 16:1, Paul tells the church in Rome to do what Phobe says because she is a laborer for Christ. Are they submitting to her authority? Does she have authority? Paul seems to think she should. He counts her as a deaconess, one who was to serve with the elders, some translations say “servant” but the Greek words means “deaconess”.

The Bible shows many women throughout the New Testament churches to be both “prophets” (Acts 21:9) and “co-workers” (Philli
pians 4:2) for Christ. They spread the gospel and apparently played a vital role in managing the churches.
Could she not be a co-worker in Christ as Paul had?
By dvdbrumley, March 30, 2011 @ 12:28 pm

Regarding Phobe, you are now plotting Paul against himself by assuming that servant means deacon (let’s not forget our conversation is about ELDERS, which you have disregarded) in Romans 16. Using verses you yourself have already quoted regarding church gov’t and the eldership though, how do you overcome your new position on women with the point you made yourself about elders which also applies to deacons (1 Tim. 3:12) where Paul writes: “Let deacons be the husband of one wife.” Can a woman be the husband of one wife? Phobe was an important part of the church, but she was not in a position of authority (which could easily lead into a further discussion of the fact that all members are a royal priesthood and that the term “authority” should be discussed deeper).
RE: Philip’s daughters: Does the scripture tell where they prophesied? Was it in a church or privately and were the daughters married (i.e., were they usurping authority over a man in this area). Also, is it possible that this verse is there not for the purposes which you are wanting to use it, but rather to show that Joel’s prophesy had come true and been fulfilled (Joel 2:28-29 & repeated in Acts 2)?

Using Phil. 4:2-3 would be the same. There is no expression of eldership or deacon in those verses, rather they are simply referred to a co-laborers. If you are going to use that expression to put them on the same plain or role as Paul, then I can deduce that you also take 1 Cor. 3:9 and Paul’s instruction that we are co-laborers with God to mean that all Christians are current deity. You are assuming much in your use of Phil. 4:2-3.

Women are vital to the church, but the N.T. shows explicitly in what ways. I don’t like it either, but the word of God is our authority. I know many women who can preach, teach, and pray better than I do and I would love to sit and listen to them preach. However, what my heart wants does not coincide with the word of God and that trumps all because the human heart is flawed Andrew and as Martin Luther referred to it, “an idol-factory.”

Just to end this argument about Wheaton in particular though, assuming that “husband of one wife” can be flipped to read “wife of one husband,” does Wheaton still qualify? Answer that and there is no longer a discussion to have.

God bless.
By Mallory, April 29, 2011 @ 12:36 pm

You seriously don’t know what you’re talking about. Everything you’ve said about Damon or The Ramp is not true… Maybe you’re the false prophet. I mean, do you not have anything better to do than bash on loving people who love God and are in His will? Leave them alone for crying out loud. I mean, have you ever even been there before? Maybe you should do that and get to know the people a little more before you talk bad about them and “discern” them when you’re really just judging them.
By Dani, May 19, 2011 @ 6:46 pm

I have to agree with this post… I have personally been to the ramp a few times and it is quite a scene. It is unorganized and chaotic. First of all, the “tithe offerings” that Damon pushes on his congregation is not explained in a way that encourages others to do it for God’s glory. Tithe is only meaningful to God if it is done out of thankfulness. We tithe to God to thank Him for everything that he has given us… because EVERYTHING we have and own is from the Him. So out of joy and thankfulness we are called to return a portion of what He blesses us with. Now… what Damon continued to preach about was reaping what we sow… telling us that we shouldn’t just “sow” every now and then but continue to sow and sow and sow and sow in order to reap and reap and reap great harvests. He communicated that in order to get what we want, we should be tithing… this is not okay…

Also, a couple that Damon is friends with that preach (both the husband AND wife preach… NOT biblical and yet he supports both of them) at a church in Montgomery, Alabama called Fresh Anointing House of Worship also practices this. I have attended that church as well and all they talked about concerning tithe was practically “if you want to be rich, give your money to God” and “the more you give, the more you get”. Both churches have also held tithing sessions where people ran up to the front of the church to either place their money in a bucket or literally throw it on the stage… WOW. I felt so dirty just being in a church that not just allowed, but also encouraged that.

Matthew 6:3-4 says “But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.”

Another topic to cover is PRAYER. I have no problem with people saying “Amen” during prayer or even a sermon, even though Damon’s sermons seem to be just a load of babble and pretty words that attract people who think they relate. But prayer is another story. During Damon’s heated and (usually) angry prayers, people in the congregation are walking around aimlessly, jumping up and down, babbling their own prayers, and even “speaking in tongues” (which is extremely unbiblical). I have witnessed Damon speaking in tongues, even through a microphone. The prayers at the Ramp are extremely chaotic and is all very distracting and inappropriate. Prayer in the Church is very necessary from the appointed Pastor or preacher… but others are called to pray “in secret”. There is no need for jumping up and down and running around like a bunch of hooligans babbling in front of or inside of a crowd of people. It is disrespectful, not only to those around but to God. Speaking in tongues is to be done in groups of 3 at the most, and WITH AN INTERPRETER. Babbling in an unknown speech and in a large group of people is in no way appropriate. I have never heard anyone at either the Ramp nor Fresh Anointing interpret this “speaking in tongues”.

Matthew 6:5-8 says “When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words. So do not be like them; for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.”

1 Corinthians 14 has a number of verses that talks about speaking in tongues.

9 So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.

27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret;

28 but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God.

29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment.

30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent.

31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted;

32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets;

33 for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

34 The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.

35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.

So… that is my take on The Ramp. All my arguments against what is practiced at the Ramp is supported by the bible.
By Dani, May 21, 2011 @ 12:01 am

Oh, and Mallory… of the many times that I have visited and tried to talk to the people there, none would give me even the time of day. I was pregnant and all they did was give me looks and avoid me rather than reaching out. THEY were judging ME.

And there is such thing as righteous judgment, by the way (which was NOT type of judgment that they were passing upon me, because they didn’t’ know me…)

They claim to be walking in faith and living in faith, and Christ tells us that we are to judge with a righteous judgment:

Does this mean we are never to judge? Certainly not, for Jesus also said: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment” -John 7:24

We are not judging them and “bashing” on them by outward appearance… righteous judgment is judging by the FRUITS that they bear… and by false prophesy and such, they are bearing rotten fruit.
By Dani, May 21, 2011 @ 12:03 am

(and righteous judgment can only be upon those who are in the Church. People who claim to be Christians are the ones we are to judge righteously.)
By Denver, May 25, 2011 @ 7:00 pm

I wont get into the subject matter of this post beacuse arguing is not biblical. But i will ask you to be careful hatefully slandering other individuals. That is certainly biblical. We are not supposed to come from a position of hate or any other disposition other than love. Watch your motives when you speak on others in an un-biblical way. Even if he was a false teacher.(He is not). You are biblically incorrect in your hate mongering tone.
By steven, October 2, 2011 @ 9:18 am

one more thing oh mighty one that knows the bible so well and follows its scriptures. the bible tells us above all gifts that we should prophesy so if you really follow Scripture the way you say than you shouldn’t have a problem prophesy over me so tell me something about myself or my past that only jesus would know. Jesus did it all the time. call my bluff prove me wrong i dare you if you don’t let it be known from this point forward that you are the false prophet the wolf in sheeps clothing . stand up and prove your self. im calling you out im saying you don’t know Jesus at all. Will you just take it or send me some more scripture on how what im saying isn’t biblical
By Jeff, October 10, 2011 @ 7:40 pm

Steven,
The Holy Spirit isn’t interested in proving anything to you.

“A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it.” (Matt16:4)
By Matt, November 23, 2011 @ 11:00 am

Thompson may know the Bible and can deliver a stirring sermon when the cameras are on, but he doesn’t pass muster as a prophet and the healing is a complete and total fraud. Furthermore, he attacked other believers who had left the church that was supporting his appearance. This ministry is bordering on a cult environment hence the angry defense from his followers.

My advice to all Christians is to be in their Bible, pray for discernment, and don’t get too devoted to any man or woman who is in Church leadership. Depend on Christ—he’s got it all correct. Follow him—not men.